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Honda Camino – Café Racer

So I attended a 2nd Go-Karting day to raise money for Brads and while there, one of my fellow ‘Joglers’ mentioned he’d seen a café racer styled Camino on ebay… Here it is..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Camino-50cc-Cafe-Racer-Moped-custom-one-off-FS1E-retro-cool-Must-Go-/330766157426?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4d03330672

The detail from the ad is..


Honda Camino 50cc automatic Cafe Racer moped, retro cool!

Re listed due to an idiot time waster !!

View Bike on you tube. paste this link.          http://youtu.be/unwPYWJSYbM

This is a one off built from a 1985 step through twist and go moped. otherwise known as a pedal and pop.

This is road legal. Still has standard 50cc engine and carb. K&N style air filter and a modified exhaust. this is cosmetic. Current top speed 35mph. Change the exhaust to a Techo and uprate engine and carb if you wish.

The whole original moped was stripped down. All parts cleaned and painted. Plastic parts removed, loads of decals.

Changes: Custom seat, different fuel tank, handle bars, headlight and fittings. Slight mods to frame to allow for the 50’s style cafe racer look.

THIS IS A REAL HEAD TURNER, AND ITS ROAD LEGAL, 11 MONTHS mot AND tax.

Ride it, show it, keep it in the garage, use as a paddock bike etc.
Satin black paint work, checkered styling, retro looks.

New tyres.

This sounds amazing for a 50cc.

CASH on Collection is preferred. Viewing is highly recommended.

Please ask any questions, Thank you.

Reduced price to attract offers, this needs to go soon!!!!!!!

Photos below – but i’m liking the vision on this…not sure how the fuel tank is attached though! 😀

Front view of custom Café RacerRear View of Customer Café Racer CaminoSide View of Café Racer Camino with petrol tankExposed drive chain on Café Racer CaminoDifferent exhaust on the Café Racer CaminoFront view of the custom Café Racer Camino - Different handlebars and Headlamp

A great page regarding getting more power from a Honda PA50 engine

Until I collect my moped I’m searching the internet to find out as much as I can about it. One of the things I’m interested in is what I can do to improve the speed/power of the scooter. It appears there are 2 engines used by Honda on the Camino, which are refered to as  the PA50I and the PA50II.

A great webpage to do with these bikes can be found here but I’ve reproduced it below.

Before you start the process of tuning your PA50I, you should consider the pros and cons. In the Honda PA50 section of the Wiki, the differences between a PA50I and a PA50II are listed. This list is longer than you think!

In summary though, here’s my own two cents. What you choose depends on your desired top speed.

Mid to upper twenties: Depends on parts prices. This speed can be reached by buying/installing a PA50II carb or re-boring a PA50I carb, PA50II reed cage, and PA50II variator ramp plate. So, if you can buy a complete PA50II engine for less than the price of a PA50II carb, reed cage, and variator ramp plate, then do it. Otherwise, buy the piece parts and upgrade your PA50I motor. (Or, if you don’t want the hassle of the parts swapping work, just buy the PA50II motor).

Mid to upper 30’s: If you want mid to upper 30’s, it will be cheaper to start out with a complete PA50II engine, and just bolt on an aftermarket exhaust. You may reach 40 if you combine this setup with a notched variator.

40’s and up: Now you’re porting/machining your PA50I 50cc cylinder, or buying a “kit” made for a honda motor, meaning you are going to buy a cylinder and exhaust. Either way, the decision whether or not you should start out with a PA50I engine or a PA50II engine boils down to the cost factor – the same as described above. If you can buy a complete PA50II engine for less than the price of a PA50II carb, reed cage, and variator ramp plate, then do it. Otherwise, buy the piece parts and upgrade your PA50I motor. The reason: the crank and block are essentially the same. The differences (motor wise) then boil down to the carb, reed, manifold, ramp plate, and rollers.

I’ve personally pursued both paths, having upgraded a PA50I and a PA50II. In my case, it was cheaper (at that particular time) to buy a PA50II carb, reed cage, and ramp plate. But – it was all a matter of timing and patience. When I was shopping for a complete motor, they were hard to come by, and expensive. I’ve seen a number of “long blocks” for sale on ebay lately (the carbs being sold separately most of the time).

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My Honda PA50 Camino

I’m trying to find out more about the bike before I collect it. A search on-line has led me to believe my model is a 1983 version of the bike.

“Introducing the 1983 PA50 Moped, a zippy little two-stroke that’ll take you all over town without taking you to the cleaners at the fuel pumps. For ’83, we’ve added some snazzy new striping and hot new colours. So this year our PA50 is as easy on the eye as it is on the gas.”

Colors:

  •         Silver Metallic
  •         Black
  •         White

Fuel tank stripe: red/silver
Battery: standard equipment
Engine type: two-stroke
Displacement: 49cc
Bore & Stroke: 40×39.3mm
Compression ratio: 6.5:1
Carburetion: 12mm butterfly valve type
Fuel: Gasoline with automatic oil injection system
Lubrication: pre-mixing the fuel and two-stroke oil
Transmission: Honda V-maticTM variablle ratio
Clutch: Dry centrifugal automatic
Exhaust system: Single muffler
Brakes: Front and rear drum
Front Suspension: Telescoic fork
Rear Suspension: Swing arm
Tire size: 2.25-17
Wheels: Wire spoke type
Ignition: Solid state CD with flywheel magneto
Starting system: Pedal starter
Wheelbase: 1064mm (41.9 in.)
Dry weight: 50.5 kg (111.5 lb)
Overall length: 1670mm (65.7 in.)
Overall width: 620mm (24.4 in.)
Seat height: 780mm (30.7 in.)
Drive: Fully-enclosed drive system
Electricals: Turn signals
Fuel capacity: 3 liter (0.8 US gal.) (.66 Imp gal.)
Serial number began: YC1AB090XDB300001

Apparently it also has indicators (Turn Signals) but I can’t see them on any of the photos I’ve got of it. I also think that a small change in exhaust could create a 40mph BEAST! Its nice to read a power upgrade which doesn’t rely on an increase in CC.

 

Info on the Honda Camino / Honda PA50

Honda PA50

Manufacturer =   Honda

Also called     =  Hobbit (US) / Camino (UK & Europe)

Production   =  1976-1991 (UK & Europe) /1978-1983 (US)

Assembly       =    Belgium

Class   =    Moped

Engine   =49 cc single-cylinder two-stroke

Transmission  =  Automatic clutch single-speed Variomatic CVT

The Honda PA50 is a moped produced by Honda between 1976 and 1991. It was marketed as the Honda Hobbit in the USA and as the Honda Camino in the UK and Europe. The vehicle itself was manufactured in a factory in Belgium until 1991. Though it has mostly disappeared from the streets of the USA and the UK like most mopeds of similar type (e.g. Motobecane Mobylette and Puch Maxi), it remains popular very in Belgium, where it is often modified using high performance parts.

Models

The following models of the Honda PA50 were produced between 1976 and 1991:

Honda PA50 L Camino. 49 cc. UK July 1976 to February 1978

Honda PA50 VL Camino. 49 cc. UK July 1976 to November 1978, September 1984 to 1986

  • Honda PA50 DX VL Camino Deluxe. 49 cc. UK June 1978 to February 1984
  • Honda PA50 DX VLS Camino Sport. 49 cc. UK April 1981 to June 1983
  • Honda PA50 DX VLM Camino Deluxe Special. 49 cc. UK February 1982 to February 1984
  • Honda PA50 VLC Camino. 49 cc. UK 1986
  • Honda PA50 VCH Camino. 49 cc. UK September 1986 to June 1991
  • Honda PA50 Hobbit I and II. 49 cc. US 1978 to 1983

Legend

L= Basic Model

M= 25 km/h

V= Variomatic (continuously variable transmission)

C= Chrome Fenders and Indicator Lights

S= Sport/Young Camino (with double saddle and cast alloy wheels)

DX= Deluxe (with double saddle)

H= 1987 model

Model varieties

  • PA50 L Camino – The first Camino model produced featuring a single-speed, automatic clutch with a conventional V-belt transmission. Features very basic electricals, with no battery or indicator lights.
  • PA50 VL Camino – A modified version of the PA 50 L to include the Variomatic transmission.
  • PA50 DX VL Camino – similar to the PA 50 VL model except for the basket fitted as standard equipment
  • PA50 DX VLS Camino Sport – Based on the Deluxe model, this features a round headlamp with separate speedometer, cast alloy wheels, a larger seat and different rear carrier, unshrouded suspension units and brighter paintwork and graphics
  • PA50 DX VLM Camino Deluxe Special – Based on the original Deluxe model, this has metallic paintwork, a round headlamp with separate speedometer and unshrouded rear suspension units.
  • PA50 VLC Camino – Based on the VL model, but with a more comprehensive electrical system, including turn signals powered by a battery.
  • PA50 VCH Camino – Identical to the VLC model apart from colour and graphics. Model can be identified by its grey seat and engine casings, and white headlamp casing, as opposed to the black items fitted to the VLC model.

(all info taken from the Wikipedia Page)